HP6 - The HBP - Spoilers Included!
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HP6 - The HBP - Spoilers Included!
WARNING! THIS MAY CONTAIN SPOILERS!!!!! READ AT YOUR OWN RISK!
Here is my review on Rotten Tomatoes...I was not impressed with the movie, but this was my favorite HP Book also:
"No idea how they are intending to transition from this movie to the next...they didn't even include the main story of Voldemorts life and how he made his Horcruxes. Not to mention they didn't include key points like the battle at Hogwarts where Bill gets bitten by Fenrir, Snape and Harry actually having a go at each other towards the end, the fact that Remus and Tonks are in love, Dumbdledores Funeral (COME ON! KEY POINT) and Harry telling Ginny that they can't be together anymore! All of these in my mind play a huge part in the next book, as they should in the movies as well. I am almost afraid to see what kind of a mess they are going to make of the next two movies. I can only hope that since they are breaking the last book up (obviously to make more money), they will backfill some of the story and include the key points that really make the last book zing. The HBP was my favorite book...unfortunately the movie falls utterly short of that mark. My recommendation - Don't see this movie if you are a strong follower of the books."
And thats just for starters.....sigh.....
Here is my review on Rotten Tomatoes...I was not impressed with the movie, but this was my favorite HP Book also:
"No idea how they are intending to transition from this movie to the next...they didn't even include the main story of Voldemorts life and how he made his Horcruxes. Not to mention they didn't include key points like the battle at Hogwarts where Bill gets bitten by Fenrir, Snape and Harry actually having a go at each other towards the end, the fact that Remus and Tonks are in love, Dumbdledores Funeral (COME ON! KEY POINT) and Harry telling Ginny that they can't be together anymore! All of these in my mind play a huge part in the next book, as they should in the movies as well. I am almost afraid to see what kind of a mess they are going to make of the next two movies. I can only hope that since they are breaking the last book up (obviously to make more money), they will backfill some of the story and include the key points that really make the last book zing. The HBP was my favorite book...unfortunately the movie falls utterly short of that mark. My recommendation - Don't see this movie if you are a strong follower of the books."
And thats just for starters.....sigh.....
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I actually really liked the movie. The book is wonderfully long and involved, and I thought that they did a good job condensing it into a film. No matter what they cut out they were going to upset somebody (since Snape is my favorite character, I did wish that there had been more of him in the film!!), but that's to be expected when transferring the story to a different medium. Overall, on its own merits, I thoroughly enjoyed it and can't wait for the next one to come out.
They'll pull a Lucas, and wait until "technology" can catch up to they way they want it be filmed, so you'll have to wait 20 years.Ubdaien wrote:Maybe they are saving it for a special edition?
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they also left amother huge part that takes up a large part of the next movie... Harry inheriting all of Serius's possessions including the house and Creature.... At the end of HBP you were supposed to feel doom and gloom and that everywhere in that world there was someone out to get you. You were supposed to feel that War broke out in your land on your land.... with out the battle in Hogwarts that feeling of dead and gloom is not there and that is the key under tones for the next book and is what drives the three to drive forward.
I am wondering since the next movie is split into 2 movies where will they end it... I am betting on 1 of the next 2 places.. either where Harry is standing over Dobbie's grave and looking out over the sea with a behind shot where griphook is watching him through the window.. the camera coming over griphooks shoulder and then panning back a little with a fade to black.
Or after they broke out of the Bank and rode the dragon to the lake.
I am wondering since the next movie is split into 2 movies where will they end it... I am betting on 1 of the next 2 places.. either where Harry is standing over Dobbie's grave and looking out over the sea with a behind shot where griphook is watching him through the window.. the camera coming over griphooks shoulder and then panning back a little with a fade to black.
Or after they broke out of the Bank and rode the dragon to the lake.
Well.. I saw the movie today and was also disappointed. They didn't spend enough time on the memories concerning Tom Riddle and why certain objects were important to him.. thereby leading to the conclusion of what was made into horcruxes in the next book. Without that lead in, how are they going to provide Harry with the knowledge of what to look for when he must search out and destroy the horcruxes? Only a single use of the invisibility cloak in the whole movie (at the very beginning while on the train.. and then to be discovered by Luna instead of Tonks?) And then, by placing him one level below what happened on the astronomy tower, but still able to act, instead of petrified and invisible on the same level, puts Harry in a bit of a cowardly light. It would have cost them nothing to have him use the cloak and Dumbledore to petrify him instead of the path they chose. It was a meaningless change.
Moldred brings up another good point about them leaving out the inheritance and all it entails as well as leaving out the dramatic fight at the end.
Another place I was surprised and disapointed was Christmas at the Weasley's.. they just invented an attack on the Weasley house by deatheaters.. where did that come from? What happened to the visit from Scrimgeour and Percy?
All in all, they did a very poor job with this movie in my opinion. It made me wonder if those who wrote the screenplay even read the book.
Moldred brings up another good point about them leaving out the inheritance and all it entails as well as leaving out the dramatic fight at the end.
Another place I was surprised and disapointed was Christmas at the Weasley's.. they just invented an attack on the Weasley house by deatheaters.. where did that come from? What happened to the visit from Scrimgeour and Percy?
All in all, they did a very poor job with this movie in my opinion. It made me wonder if those who wrote the screenplay even read the book.
Aye. all good arguments. I'm glad I'm not the only one who was disappointed by this movie.
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They made up the thing with the Weasley's how being burned so they didn't have to deal w/ Fleur & Bill's wedding at all.. If you noticed, those characters weren't mentioned in the least so they're completely out of the picture..
They're going to make you assume that Harry just knows the Hogwarts founders items are what are horcruxes it's "obvious"..
They didn't have to do Dumbledore's funeral because he looks at his wand in his office, so it's there not in his tomb..
I too thought the whole thing w/ Harry "being quiet" one level lower but moving was horrible..
I thought the whole love stories between Harry/Ginny and Ron/Hermione were waaaaaay too over done and obvious.. not even in the majority of the last book do you get a sense of the chance the latter will get together..
So much more I could say.. I was hoping beyond hope that having the same screenplay director as the first 4 movies, it was going to be a little more well done than it was..
They're going to make you assume that Harry just knows the Hogwarts founders items are what are horcruxes it's "obvious"..
They didn't have to do Dumbledore's funeral because he looks at his wand in his office, so it's there not in his tomb..
I too thought the whole thing w/ Harry "being quiet" one level lower but moving was horrible..
I thought the whole love stories between Harry/Ginny and Ron/Hermione were waaaaaay too over done and obvious.. not even in the majority of the last book do you get a sense of the chance the latter will get together..
So much more I could say.. I was hoping beyond hope that having the same screenplay director as the first 4 movies, it was going to be a little more well done than it was..
I look at it this way. I look at the movies as its own standalone series rather then trying to compare it against the books because as we all know, they will almost always fall short.
I do agree that they have left a great deal of content out of the movie that made the book popular in the first place but as I stated above. Looking at the film on its own merit, I have to admit that it was very well done and on the whole, decent.
I do agree that they have left a great deal of content out of the movie that made the book popular in the first place but as I stated above. Looking at the film on its own merit, I have to admit that it was very well done and on the whole, decent.
This is like the one and only time that I will probably ever say this, but... I agree with Fazin. I love the Harry Potter books to bits, and I will read them to my children one day. But the movies themselves are still good, even though they don't follow the plot exactly right. A person who has never read the books could still enjoy them.
Of course, if we were talking about Phillip Pullman's Golden Compass from the Dark Matter series of books, I would agree that it was absolutely butchered when they made it into a movie to the point where I could not enjoy the film at all. Ugh. Nizzi had never read those books and left feeling even more confused than me, because they did such a terrible job of telling any kind of coherant story at all, let alone the story from the book. At least the plot of the Harry Potter movie made sense.
Of course, if we were talking about Phillip Pullman's Golden Compass from the Dark Matter series of books, I would agree that it was absolutely butchered when they made it into a movie to the point where I could not enjoy the film at all. Ugh. Nizzi had never read those books and left feeling even more confused than me, because they did such a terrible job of telling any kind of coherant story at all, let alone the story from the book. At least the plot of the Harry Potter movie made sense.